Changes coming for collection of yard debris in Fernandina Beach

Submitted by Suanne Z. Thamm
Reporter – News Analyst
February 5, 2021

 

It appears that effective July 1, 2021, the City of Fernandina Beach will assume responsibility for the collection and disposal of residential yard waste, thereby hopefully eliminating existing problems with Waste Management’s inability to keep on schedule with pick-ups.  This change will come with an estimated monthly rate increase of $3.00 per customer.

One of the most annoying problems facing the City of Fernandina Beach over the past few years has been the inability of the City’s waste hauler to keep up with the yard debris generated by residential property owners.  City Commissioners receive regular complaints from citizens that yard debris often piles up for weeks before it is hauled away, resulting in unsightly piles that can attract rodents and other pests.

Waste Management — formerly, Advanced Disposal — customers point to language in the hauler’s contract with the City indicating that yard debris will be collected once a week.  What customers do not cite, however, is the portion of the contract that requires yard debris to be bagged and bundled according to certain size and weight requirements.

And therein lies the rub.

How we got here

Under the heading “No Good Deed Goes Unpunished,”  Advanced Disposal decided not to enforce that portion of the contract after receiving multiple complaints and push back from customers.  Spokesperson Karlie Evatt in January 2019 told Fernandina Beach customers that while “bagging and bundling” was encouraged, it was not mandated.

And that’s where the problem gets stickier.  In developing its household costs for yard debris removal, Advanced Disposal had not factored in maintaining the practice residents relied on for years:  having a grapple truck pick up their leaves, lawn, shrub and tree cuttings, regardless of amount or size from a pile placed in the City Right-Of-Way.  Also, Advanced Disposal had not factored in the impact that elimination of the City mulch site at the Airport would have on their operations.  Under the  new contract, yard debris needed to be hauled off the island for disposal, necessitating a round trip of 2 hours per truck.  Advanced Disposal found it had neither the trucks nor the staff to adhere to the stated pick up schedule of once per week per neighborhood.

In initially approving the contract in 2018, neither City staff nor Commissioners appeared to realize that the chances for success were grim for instituting a “bundling and bagging” practice among residents who were accustomed to just dumping their leaves and other yard debris at the curb.

Contractor losing money; residents unhappy with service

In trying to find a solution to the stream of complaints about delayed yard waste collection, last summer the City undertook a non-scientific survey to determine the will of the residents.  By a 52-48 percent margin, respondents said they would prefer to pay more to maintain the traditional level of service.

Advanced Disposal was officially acquired by Waste Management in October 2020.  During ongoing review of operations, the company decided that they could not continue losing money by allowing City residents to violate contract provisions.  They  proposed solutions:  enforce the contract or raise residential prices to allow residents to continue their traditional practice of disposing of yard debris.

At the first meeting of the new FBCC in December 2020, Waste Management brought two options for resolving the problem to the FBCC’s attention:  working to the contract or raising rates to accommodate traditional practices.

And so Greg Huntington, now representing Waste Management, again presented the dilemma to the Fernandina Beach City Commission (FBCC) for guidance and resolution at the FBCC’s February 2, 2021 Regular Meeting.  He said that the company would not be able to continue losing money and would be required to enforce terms of the existing contract unless another solution could be found.

A second option would be raising rates as follows:

Commissioners, with the exception of Bradley Bean, believed that to require homeowners to bag and bundle yard debris would result in more headaches for the City and its residents.  Some tree-rich neighborhoods generate significant yard debris which cannot always be bagged and bundled easily, especially by elderly residents.  Many also believed that residents would ignore the requirement and continue dumping material at the curb.  Since the contracted waste hauler would not pick that up, it would be up to the City to do so.  This would duplicate service and add extra cost to the City’s budget.

Discussion and decision

At the February 2 FBCC meeting, Huntington introduced a third option, which followed discussion with City representatives:  Waste Management would assist the City in the collection of yard waste until July 1, 2021 at which time the City would take over the collection of yard waste entirely.

Huntington said that his company would be fine with the third option because it would save them expenses and provide an increased level of service to City residents.  He said that Waste Management would still appeal for a rate increase because they have lost money for the past 2 years by not enforcing the terms of their contract.

He allowed that while there would be need for further discussion, “My goal tonight is to achieve consensus that we will move in that direction [Option 3].”

City Maintenance Manager Jeremiah Glisson explained that it could cost approximately $470K in operational and capital costs to implement Option 3 broken down as follows:

  • 2 full time employees ($140K)
  • Additional trucks, fuel and equipment (leased or purchased) ($125K)
  • Staging site at the Airport for grinding and disposing of debris ($205K)

He said that the City’s Sanitation Fund, an enterprise fund, is healthy and would be able to fund the equipment purchases, if the FBCC so desires.

Glisson said that he has begun talks with Airport Manager Nathan Coyle and the FAA about using the Airport site.  “This is where the most savings would come from,” he said, “because we would not be making 1.5 hour trips to the landfill.”  Glisson said that this model worked well when the activity was previously done in-house.

Glisson added that there would still be a rate increase for customers of approximately $3 per month, once Waste Management is totally out of the yard debris business.

Commissioner Bradley Bean

Commissioner Bradley Bean began Commission discussion on the options.   “No situation is ideal,” he said. “In my view I want to avoid expanding the size of government, and I would like to avoid rate increases where they come.  So I want to push for enforcing the bagging and bundling concept as it appears in the current contract.”

Vice Mayor Len Kreger said, “This is crazy.  This problem has been floating around forever.  My initial concerns were for the rate increase Waste Management proposed, because 40-50 percent of residents don’t generate yard waste.  I wanted to see an option where those who use the service pay for it.  Tonight we are reviewing options for correcting an error that was made in 2018.”  Kreger agreed to think about it but seemed to support Bean’s position.

Commissioner David Sturges

Commissioner David Sturges, who previously ran a lawn landscape service, disagreed.  “The streets of our City have used the current method for 35 years and it has worked,” he said.  “When you have a large pile of leaves, half the size of this room, bagging and bundling will take tons of hours, and I’m sure the citizens would not mind the $3 increase per month.  I prefer the City’s taking back the service because I still have waste sitting in front of my house, including my Christmas tree, that’s been sitting there over 2 weeks.”

Sturges said  he was not upset with Waste Management, because he realized that with the pandemic, there has been a huge increase in yard debris generated by residents who have had more time to spend on their yard maintenance.  He supported the rate increase, returning the operation to the City and restoring the mulch operation at the Airport.  He said that the City can use the mulch and allow citizens to take mulch for their own use.  “I believe that is the best option,” he said.

Commissioner Chip Ross

Commissioner Chip Ross admitted that he had voted in favor of bagging and bundling when he voted to approve the current contract, believing that such a practice would keep debris out of the street and the storm drains.  “But that was a mistake,” Ross said.  “I will take responsibility for that.  The problem today is the cost increase which I understand and the fact that the City will still be in the yard debris removal business [if we leave the task with Waste Management].  This is because what Waste Management won’t pick up (not bagged and bundled) the City will have to pick up.  Also a lot of people are just going to put the material out there anyway, and the City will have to come get it.  But if the operation stays with Waste Management, the City won’t have the revenue source to do that.”

Ross said that he seldom receives complaints about Waste Management’s trash and recycle pick-up.  “I think they do a good job,” he said.  “But for some reason the yard waste pick-up has not gone as well.  The number one complaint I used to get was trash on the beach, but now it’s yard waste.  I will vote for the City’s taking this over.  Disgruntled residents never blame Waste Management; they always blame the City when their waste is not picked up.”

Vice Mayor Len Kreger

Kreger clarified his remarks to reflect that while he liked what Bean said, he believed such a step would be a disaster.  “In the end, I am supporting returning yard waste removal to the City.  I don’t like it, but I will support it, because I think it will work,” he said.

Bean spoke again, acknowledging that he had listened to the other Commissioners’ arguments.  “I believe I was elected to stop raising rates, so that’s why I’m here,” he said.  “I believe there would be more people upset with a rate increase than they would be with bagging and bundling.  I still advocate for the first option which involves no rate increase.  I will always fight for lower taxes.”

Huntington tried to clarify Waste Management’s position.  Even though the operation would transfer to the City, there would still be a request for additional compensation to cover the work done between March and July 1.

Sturges added, “In the short term, this may not be a cheap problem to fix.  But in the long haul costs will go down after we get the equipment.”

Glisson added that the proposed cost of capital equipment has been spread over a 7-year period.  He said that he had projected “worst case” pricing.

Ross suggested that one way to defray cost would be to compost the waste, bag and sell it.

Mayor Mike Lednovich

Mayor Mike Lednovich said that he lives on Canopy Drive, where the majority of residents are over 75 years old.  “There is no way these residents are going to bag and bundle, especially when all the leaves come down,” he said.  “Large limbs come down that would require a chain saw to get to an appropriate size for Waste Management to pick up.  I support every word of what Commissioner Bean says about limited government and living within our means.  But here is the net result at least in my neighborhood.  Residents will continue to drag material to the curb and the City will have to pick it up.  We will have to pay for the yard waste disposal one way or the other.  I don’t think that bagging and bundling will work as a solution to the problem.”

What next?

Mayor Lednovich asked City Attorney Tammi Bach how the FBCC should proceed to opt for the return of the yard waste operation to the City, since action would not be taken at the current meeting.

Greg Huntington (l) and Jeremiah Glisson.

Bach recommended that the FBCC consider official action at the next meeting.  The Waste Management contract is adopted by Ordinance, so changing the contract would require two readings and a public hearing.  Adoption would probably not be possible until the first meeting in April.

The City and Waste Management will work out the details required for the transfer for first reading of the revised Ordinance on February 16.  All Commissioners except Bean were in agreement.

On behalf of Waste Management, Huntington said, “I think it’s always important to state that we do appreciate the partnership we have with the City.  We want to do what’s best for the City.  Period.  We’ll work with staff to figure it out and have something to you by February 16.”

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DAVID LOTT
DAVID LOTT(@dave-l)
3 years ago

I had recommended a 4th option when this first came up a couple of months ago but only heard back from Chip who rejected the idea. Open up the mulch yard at the airport (which is going to happen under any scenario) and allow Waste Management to use it for dumping the yard debris. This will cut at least 1.5 hours per truck trip saving them substantial personnel, equipment and fuel costs. They would then be responsible for bringing in a chipper and mulching the debris. A heavy duty chipper should have a reduction ration of at least 12:1 if not higher, meaning that instead of the truck making 12 round trips of 2 hours, they would make 1.

Al MacDougall
Al MacDougall (@guest_60342)
3 years ago

Please let the professionals handle debris pick-up. They do it nationally with success. Why start up a city operation that does not have the expertise and resources that Waste Management can provide?

Ask Waste Management for a “best and final offer”.

Then decide whether to use the pros or take your chances with a “cheaper” amateur offer.

Fred pugh
Fred pugh (@guest_60344)
3 years ago

If eliminating the Airport site was a significant factor in the operational costs that waste management incurred, and the city is planning to reopen the Airport site as part of the city’s $3 plan, why didn’t the commissioners ask waste management to revisit their quote with the Airport site consideration. Instead the preferred path is more city employees and more city equipment. This sounds very similar to the golf course solution.

Mark Tomes
Active Member
Mark Tomes(@mtomes)
3 years ago

Collecting yard waste and turning it into mulch is a no-brainer. The city could implement an educational campaign to teach the many benefits of organic mulch, which would be a win-win-win for the city, the public, and the environment.

Julie Ferreira
Julie Ferreira(@julie-ferreira)
3 years ago

When my friend lived in San Francisco there were 3 bins that were half the size of Fernandina’s. One was for recyclables, one for trash, and one for compostables which included food, soiled-paper and yard waste. I agree with Fred Pugh why not first let Waste Management pickup and take to the airport site so they don’t incur the expense of disposal that necessitates a round trip of 2 hours; then the city could focus on managing a composting site which also requires manpower. It would be great to have local compost but also a pile of big wood from all the trees that are coming down for people to be able to get firewood.

David Lott
David Lott(@dave-l)
3 years ago
Reply to  Julie Ferreira

Julie, see my note below. I’m not sure how much ‘firewood” would be collected given most is going to be shrub pruning and small limbs in addition to the grass clippings and leaves. As you know and mention, the creation of composting takes constant attention with the turning of the compost and keeping it moist for aeration and the bacterial action to break it down Back when the City did this they sold (or gave) the shredding to one of the mills for burning but Chip says since the mills have converted to natural gas they aren’t interested as well as the shredding has too much moisture. I just feel that if the City let WM used the former mulch yard and handle the entire operation that could be a win-win situation.

Chris Hadden
Chris Hadden (@guest_60351)
3 years ago

As person who regularly puts out yard waste I can not imagine trying to bag it. In my mind that is a non starter. I have never had an issue with yard waste being picked up, I was always amazed how quickly it was done. I don’t like paying more, who does, but I think the service is worth keeping, as it is. My last thought is yard debris should be considered an asset. It is a recyclable. It should be composted, screened and sold back to the community as top soil. Constantly removing all organic material growing on the island is a bad thing. Leaves fall and enrich the soil in which they grow. Removing the cycle without adding it back just gives us sand and the need for more wate, fertilizer and pest control.

George Jones
George Jones (@guest_60354)
3 years ago

I agree with Fred Pugh. Why add more city employees and more city equipment.

Ask waste management to give the city a quote using the Airport site. The FBCC

should consider this approach to the problem.

Neil Borum
Neil Borum (@guest_60355)
3 years ago

Reopening the airport site is imperative.

No matter who picks up the yard debris.

It should have never been closed.

BTW, mulch can be sold instead of being purchased.

And has anyone considered the impact of trash bags on the environment??

Ruthellen Mulberg
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Ruthellen Mulberg(@rmulberg)
3 years ago

I basically agree with the previous comments on this thread by my fellow-residents.

If I missed “the memo” on why the City closed the airport site, forgive me. But I never understood why that happened in the first place! (Thanks, Dave Lott for your explanation from Chip regarding loss of the mills as a buyer of the mulch). Nonetheless, I think it makes sense to restore that facility and arrange other ways to use the compost.

In addition, not only would the requirement to bag and bundle be excessively burdensome to most folks maintaining their homes, it would introduce even more non-biodegradable refuse in the form of plastic bags! This adds insult to injury at a moment when we urgently need to deal with the negative consequences of our choices with regard to the climate crisis.

To create an entirely new entity of city government to handle one of the maintenance tasks that can be handled quite efficiently and effectively by the private sector, seems pennywise and pound foolish! (Didn’t the city directly handle waste disposal way back when and opt out of that once already?)

I have to add that I have always been impressed with the responsiveness of Advanced Disposal. When a company operates efficiently, it gets noticed. So not surprised that WM wanted to acquire them. With such mergers, changes occur and not always to the benefit of the customer. That said, one can’t expect any vendor to keep losing money for a job.

If the majority of residents surveyed last year preferred the small rate increase, why does it seem that this has been totally ignored by the Commission?

When it comes to pushing back against tax and fees increases, I would suggest that commissioners pick their battles more carefully. To quibble between $3/mo and a $5.95/mo increase seems somewhat absurd to me. I think that residents well understand that municipal services must be paid for. I further believe that my fellow-residents understand that costs are likely to rise over time. The objection to increases generally arises when the tax/fee-payers lose faith that they are getting what they pay for! In this instance I would argue that we certainly are!