Who’s On First? Commission Wrestles With Manager Process

By Mike Phillips

The most important item on yesterday’s city commission agenda was billed as a “discussion” about the city’s process for finding a city manager. Given the amount of running around in circles that followed, it was more like a contest to see which commissioner could sow the most confusion — particularly commissioners David Sturges and Darron Ayscue (who changed or modified their ideas frequently enough to make onlookers’ heads spin).

Citizens who made comments were far more concise. Hire a professional search firm, they said, and tell the firm what you are looking for. Five such search firms have made proposals to the city.

Then came the first round of confusion, over who should determine what the city is looking for in a new manager.  At first some commissioners said they thought the citizen advisory committee that will have its first meeting April 17 should determine what the city is looking for. They eventually seemed to drop that idea, but they didn’t formally accept the obligation themselves, either.

After more circling around on the question of hiring a professional search firm, they settled on seeking an “a la carte” arrangement with Strategic Government Resources (SGR). At first, there were suggestions that the firm would just be used to “vet” candidates, though the nature of “vetting” wasn’t clearly spelled out.

Then, after some more circling around, the word “recruit” emerged. After all, professional search firms do know where to look, and citizen committees don’t.

Three other important services that SGR offers weren’t discussed, although Commissioner James Antun pointed out that they would cost only $2,500 more:

— Leading the search process.

— Handling all logistics associated with scheduling interviews.

— Offering a one-year guarantee on hires they have recommended.

Firms like SGR aren’t headhunters, as some people call them. They are matchmakers. They get to know the city and its leaders and scour the applications and their more general knowledge of the municipal management landscape and look for good matches.

One question was where the citizen committee fits in. The general response was that the search firm would submit a list to the citizen committee. A list of every candidate who survived the “vetting”? Or a list that has been edited by the search firm’s matchmaking skills? That’s not clear.

And then came a question (one of many) from Commissioner Chip Ross that almost stumped the other commissioners: Who is in charge of this process? Finally, Mayor Bradley Bean said, “The chair of the citizen committee.”

After receiving the list, he said, the committee will narrow it down to a manageable number and bring finalists in for interviews with the committee and the commission.

After that, he assured all present, the commission will do its job and decide.

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Robert Warner
Robert Warner (@guest_68137)
1 year ago

WTF? Chaos.

Sheila
Sheila(@srcocchi)
1 year ago
Reply to  Robert Warner

Chaos is being kind.

anonymous
anonymous (@guest_68138)
1 year ago

The process certainly left many of us shaking our heads. Ignoring the one-year guarantee is shortsighted. If the successful candidate walks away after a few months of this chaos, the commissioners are back to square one. How were the search firm proposals rated? Firms that do not get the bid can request a summary of the ranking–was there a set of criteria?

Richard Lamken
Richard Lamken(@ralamken)
1 year ago

I ran the Superintendent search for a School District. The School Board wanted a “blended approach”. The search firm would provide me with vetted candidates and I completed the process. There was no guarantee by the search firm since they weren’t involved in the actual selection and received about 50% of their normal fee. Is the city HR Director advising the Commissioners? Sounds like a real time suck and 5 Commissioners pulling and pushing in different directions!

Guest
Guest (@guest_68268)
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Lamken

Aren’t you a part of CCDF?

Ann R
Ann R (@guest_68140)
1 year ago

This is why experience and thoughtfulness matters. We have a well meaning but inexperienced group of men running our city. This is what on-the-job training looks like.

PattyM
Active Member
PattyM(@pattym)
1 year ago
Reply to  Ann R

“well meaning”???? questionable characterization. “inexperienced” — accurate.

Anonymous
Anonymous(@srcocchi)
1 year ago

This is an embarrassment for our City.

The level of incompetence of our elected officials is astounding.

Peggy Bulger
Peggy Bulger(@peggy-bulger1949gmail-com)
1 year ago

I am so disappointed that our city commission is still bucking the only professional way to hire a city manager. Why? Is it ignorance? Corruption? Mayor Bean needs to explain why he is so against hiring a search firm. Surely he knew that firing our city manager without having citizen input would lead to this enormous task and it would cost the city dearly in money and goodwill. I hope that we will be able to move forward without hidden agendas and hubris.

Sheila
Sheila(@srcocchi)
1 year ago
Reply to  Peggy Bulger

Both.

Bean already has a hand picked candidate.

Firing Martin and the subsequent search for replacement was a done deal before the election and Sunshine was required.

Roy Chisolm
Roy Chisolm(@hwalker00)
1 year ago
Reply to  Sheila

And who is the hand picked candidate since you apparently have a crystal ball?

Anonymous
Anonymous (@guest_68168)
1 year ago
Reply to  Sheila

No he does not. Jack Knocke has hand picked out next City Manager and told Bean who it would be.

Sheila
Sheila(@srcocchi)
1 year ago
Reply to  Anonymous

It’s the same thing.

anonymous
anonymous (@guest_68179)
1 year ago
Reply to  Anonymous

This is pretty scary, but unfortunately true. Beware of the Republican minority as a citizenship group on the island.

Guest
Guest (@guest_68178)
1 year ago
Reply to  Peggy Bulger

We’ve only been in Fernandina Beach for a little over a year- long enough to see the writing on the wall. What we have here is a tight knit group of irresponsible, so-called leaders who get nothing done. People attend meetings and voice their concerns to be ignored. People write letters to commissioners that go unanswered. We’ve lived in many places with problems here and there but Fernandina Beach takes the cake. Lame.

Anon
Anon (@guest_68145)
1 year ago

While there is agreement and disagreement on this issue, what strikes me the most is the constant “stone throwing”. Could we not all be responsible adults and assist our city, rather than tear down every step our leadership makes.

Robert Warner
Robert Warner (@guest_68146)
1 year ago
Reply to  Anon

We are. Competent, unbought, unbiased professional guidance. We most all know what we should do. The road blocks – given just what happened in this election are significant.

S.Russo
S.Russo(@waterboy1967)
1 year ago
Reply to  Anon

Exactly. All the people on here with negative comments are “so called experts” why don’t you run for office! Pathetic!!

Steve Vogel
Steve Vogel(@stevedec)
1 year ago

Another act in the Clown Circus. Again, why would any decent, qualified person even consider the job?

John Findlay
John Findlay(@jfindlay)
1 year ago

Seems like CCDF-Nassau, the ultraconservative organization, is trying to foist their handpicked candidate on the city. Wonder how many Republican commissioners see this as the game plan and are just pretending to go through an objective process!

Roy Chisolm
Roy Chisolm(@hwalker00)
1 year ago
Reply to  John Findlay

They’re not an ultraconservative organization, they are a RIGHT WING organization per the former Mayor, Mike Lednovich.

Guest
Guest (@guest_68160)
1 year ago
Reply to  Roy Chisolm

Do your own research. The group proclaims to be non-partisan. What a bunch of phooey.

Guest
Guest (@guest_68158)
1 year ago
Reply to  John Findlay

How many? Certainly 3. Perhaps 4.

Sheila
Sheila(@srcocchi)
1 year ago
Reply to  John Findlay

How many of them are in on it? My count? 3.

Ron Barone
Ron Barone (@guest_68151)
1 year ago

A few thoughts:

  • Does hiring a search firm simply afford the commissioners the opportunity to point a finger at someone else if the person proves to be a bad choice?
  • Is the press of Fernandina Beach purposefully sowing discontent because their inside man (Martin) is no longer available to them?
  • Is the press of FB exaggerating the growing pains of the mostly new commissioners (and an infrequent process of selecting a new city manager) and purposefully sowing discontent by following the liberal playbook in this country to exaggerate discontent?
  • The former city manager appeared to play favorites among the city commissioners. Should that not be one of the main factors in selecting a new city manager? Any showing of favoritism is grounds for immediate dismissal.
  • Let the process play out. Stop the arm-chair quarterbacking.
Casual Observer
Casual Observer(@betsie-huben)
1 year ago
Reply to  Ron Barone

The problem sir is that there is no process. Every reasonable suggestion to do something competent including GovHR USA – has been tossed to the side. Now why do you suppose that is? Could it be that Mr. Findlay is right?

Charlie
Charlie(@charlie)
1 year ago

Chip Ross lost his sidekick. Hopefully the next manager listens to all the commissioners. Will miss the weekly “Chip n Dale” cartoons though in action

Guest
Guest (@guest_68159)
1 year ago
Reply to  Charlie

Could it be that Martin was correct and listening to the person who does their homework? Could it be that Martin was merely an obstacle preventing personal agendas from prevailing?

Cheryl
Cheryl(@cheryl-deem)
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Well it did seem as if the commissioners opposed to hiring a search firm hadn’t bothered to read the proposals.True leaders are willing to acknowledge they are not experts in everything and rely on professionals for their expertise. And that is not having the members of the city HR department involved in hiring their boss. It’s almost as if they lack the confidence to bring in professionals to help hire a competent city manager.

Guest
Guest (@guest_68154)
1 year ago

What’s the best way to contact the Commissioners? Email? Do they respond or ignore? Thanks to anybody who can help.

Roy Chisolm
Roy Chisolm(@hwalker00)
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

They probably won’t respond to Guest.

Guest
Guest (@guest_68166)
1 year ago
Reply to  Roy Chisolm

I don’t come here much and wasn’t asking for myself. The topic came up this morning so I thought I’d ask. A waste of time I see.

John Goshco
John Goshco (@guest_68171)
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

I don’t live in the city, but since no one else wants to help you…
The city website is http://www.fbfl.us
Commissioner information is easy to find. The site gives emails and phone numbers. http://fbfl.us/842/Meet-the-Commissioners
Good luck.

Guest
Guest (@guest_68189)
1 year ago
Reply to  John Goshco

We don’t know yet how helpful they are. Haven’t written yet and don’t want to ask for help. Another issue. Many have said they rarely respond to constituents.

John Goshco
John Goshco (@guest_68172)
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Never communicated with the city, but I imagine the potential response would depend upon which commissioner(s) you contact, the subject matter, and its perceived relevance. From what I read on the Observer, Commissioner Ross seems to be extremely responsive to constituents. The others, I don’t know.

Guest
Guest (@guest_68173)
1 year ago
Reply to  John Goshco

Thanks John. How they respond or don’t respond to constituents’ concerns when no one else is looking speaks volumes. I’m told that Chip Ross responds but just enough to say that he did. Not sure that counts.

Bill Fold
Bill Fold(@bill-fold)
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

Mayor Bradley Bean
[email protected]
(904) 415-5181

Vice-Mayor David Sturges
[email protected]
(904)624-4596

City Commissioner Ronald “Chip” Ross [email protected]
(410) 394-0220

City Commissioner Darron Ayscue [email protected]
(904) 780-4480

City Commissioner James Antun
 [email protected]
(516) 547-5309

John Goshco
John Goshco (@guest_68183)
1 year ago
Reply to  Guest

I replied last night with the city website/commissioner information, but it’s still “awaiting approval”. Judging by my past experience on this site, their crack moderators could take 3-5 days to review.
The city website, “www DOT fbfl DOT us” has the commissioner’s phone numbers and email contact info.

Guest
Guest (@guest_68163)
1 year ago

#RECALL

Ray
Trusted Member
Ray(@rskorski)
1 year ago

Only candidates who go through the Executive Search Process (application, screening, and background checks) and are identified as finalists should be considered by the Citizens City Manager Search Committee and the Commission. If either group is not satisfied with the pool of finalists, they can either consider the next highest rated non-finalists or restart the process with a revised recruitment plan and re-advertise the position. All local candidates should be strongly encouraged to apply, complete the entire process, and compete with the entire field.

Anonymous
Anonymous (@guest_68167)
1 year ago

I don’t think anyone who is not elected should be able to make these decisions for our City.

We have elected officials who can barely form a sentence much less find us a City Manager. Hire a profession to find the new manager.

It is very clear this new citizens committee, our so called Mayor, and the majority of the Commissioners can not make a decision without the local CCDF telling them what to say. You were elected by more people than them. Act like it.

I pray for our little town because none of these people really give a damn about it.

Sheila
Sheila(@srcocchi)
1 year ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Preach!

anonymous
anonymous (@guest_68185)
1 year ago
Reply to  Sheila

You’re so on the ball. You should run for office. No kidding.

Evan Nosbig
Evan Nosbig (@guest_68180)
1 year ago

In other news … Yesterday, April 4, the Fernandina Beach City Commissioners voted 4 to 1 in favor of removing 25 additional parking spaces from Parking Lot A. That is the lot at the west end of Center Street, north of Brett’s Waterway restaurant. In a “downtown” area that is already parking limited, and replacing with grass, is nonsensical at best. The downtown merchants at the west end must be thrilled.

A.M.
A.M. (@guest_68188)
1 year ago
Reply to  Evan Nosbig

They just replaced the grass along the waterfront with freakin’ shells! It’s a mess on the sidewalk and the marina docks. Are these clowns following ANY of the expensive plans that have been bought over the years, or is one of their kids needing a summer job mowing the grass? Oh…it’s stupid shells now! Better get some more grass in there, quick!