Election Fraud Speakers Find an Audience Here

By April L. Bogle

A former law professor and a businessman turned podcaster preached their views on election fraud at the First Baptist Church Fernandina Beach, Sat., April 15. Two local conservative organizations, We the People and Citizens Defending Freedom-Nassau (CDF-Nassau), promoted the event. CDF-Nassau advertised in the News-Leader’s “Out & About” section, and We the People did so in Citizens Journal Florida.

Billed as “Restoring Trust in Elections” the presentation was clearly intended to do the opposite. It featured David Clements, who has been driving across the nation to spread his gospel of a widespread “vote trafficking scheme” since he left New Mexico State University in 2021, and Joe Oltmann, former owner of a data marketing firm, who has made national headlines claiming he can prove the Dominion Voting Systems machines used in the 2020 presidential election were rigged for Joe Biden.

Janet Adkins, Supervisor of Elections for Nassau County, was among the approximately 100-person audience, which included people from other communities including Florida’s west coast.

“I was there because I think it’s important to listen to all points of view and to evaluate all issues related to ballot security. My job is to protect the public trust, and we work every day to earn that trust,” Adkins said.  

Clements took the podium first. “None of you have truly voted in the better part of 20 years, not if you understand what a vote is. … You are submitting a manipulated, fractionalized data point.”

He spent the next 90-plus minutes walking the audience through a series of images. News clips showing precinct closings on election day before ballot counting was finished were designed to imply fraud. Photos of black boxes into which voters feed their completed ballots were to be seen as “the new slave master.” Recreations of databases — using unsubstantiated data — supposedly showed how vote tallies are manipulated.

In courtroom style, Clements laid out a complex case in a compelling manner, planting seeds of doubt that only those with an understanding of information technology could understand – or challenge.

Most in the room were rapt, though some showed skepticism by sighing and fidgeting.

His closing was a call to action, charging the audience to be “many Moseses confronting many Pharaohs” at the local level to demand they abandon black boxes and return to paper ballots. “It’s kill or be killed time,” he said.

About 80% of the room gave Clements a standing ovation. But he was just the warm-up act.

Oltmann was the main attraction. He founded an organization called Faith, Education, and Commerce (FEC) United in 2020 to “start pushing back” against COVID-related shutdowns of small businesses.

“As I started to see things that happened when they shut it down … they didn’t want to do it economically because they wanted President Trump to lose.”

He started a podcast, “Conservative Daily,” to deliver his viewpoint and took to the streets to confront protestors after the death of George Floyd.

“We had one rule. You throw a soup can at us, we’re going to take all your teeth out … I like fighting,” he said. “I got into a lot of fights in the summer of 2020. I hit a guy so hard I saw his soul leave his body, and then the way I live my life, I picked him off the ground and said, yep concussion, you need to live to see another day, you need to leave, and I [helped] him home.”

His election fraud focus started after he infiltrated a meeting of “Antifa journalists” where he says he heard Eric Coomer of Dominion reassure others on the call that Trump would not win re-election in 2020. “Trump is not going to win. I made f—ing sure of that,” Oltmann claims Coomer said.

“God put me on that call,” said Oltmann.

Although there appears to be no credible evidence Coomer made such a comment, Oltmann gained right-wing media attention, and in December 2020, Coomer filed a defamation lawsuit against him that is still pending.

Also in December 2020, Oltmann said he created a replica of the Dominion system in three days by using “what’s called compression theory,” which he described as taking all the information he could access from states, stacking it, and building a model based on “all the variables we saw happen on Nov. 3, all available affidavits for 4,000-5,000 people.”

He sent it to “guys in D.C.” who sent “DNI, DHS, like CIA guys” to evaluate it. As Jan. 6, 2022 approached, the day Congress was to certify the election of Joe Biden as president, he was “sent to Washington and met with all the people you should meet with.” He said he was told to meet with Trump but declined.

“They didn’t have a plan. … They didn’t know sh– about technology and they just spouted off at the mouth,” he said, which led to confusion, giving “the media fodder needed to discredit all election fraud that happened across the country, and the tech companies shut us down.”

Nassau County’s Adkins, who has 12 years of experience working in IT, including as a programmer, shared her doubts about the machine fraud claims presented. “From an IT perspective, it’s certainly possible to write any of those utilities or programs or algorithms, as they were called, but what they didn’t cover is how individuals get access to those machines and that’s a very big part of what we do. We have multiple layers of security and multiple ways of conducting checks and balances. If there was an issue, I really believe we would know about it.”

She also questioned the notion that the numerous precinct closings referenced by both speakers were part of a fraudulent scheme. She explained the closings were more likely due to time running out before ballot counting could be completed.

“In Florida, we can start canvassing mail-in ballots as soon as we complete the logic and accuracy test for the equipment. We started a month prior to the 2020 general election, so by the election, we’d already spent many hours opening and tabulating, whereas other states are not allowed to start until the morning of the election. In Nassau County, when we end for the night, we end because we’re finished. We had a head start.”

It remains to be seen if Adkins’ job will now be more challenging given the claims made by the speakers.

Both Clements and Oltmann appealed to the audience’s sympathies by speaking of challenges they’ve faced in delivering their messages for more than two years. Clements said he lost his job, was “stripped of my law license” and is currently going through his “fifth investigation.” Oltmann said he lost his company, his family requires extra security precautions, and he continues to battle the defamation lawsuit brought by Dominion’s Coomer.

And both emphasized their Christian beliefs, Clements saying he’s a “Bible believing Christian” and Oltmann saying his work is “a calling.” Yet both regularly inject violence into their social media platforms, as they did in Fernandina Beach last Saturday night.

A Reuters special report on Clements featured one of his “The Professor’s Record” posts: “I endorse firing squads when the crime of treason has been committed. Firing squads have my full, total, and unwavering endorsement!” (Dec. 21, 2022)

Oltmann got widespread news coverage in December 2021 by calling for the mass execution of politicians whom he said were traitors to America, including Colorado Gov. Jared Polis. During his “Conservative Daily” podcast, he said, “I want people to go out there and get some wood. The gallows are getting wider and longer. We should be able to build gallows all the way from Washington, D.C., to California,” later adding the comment, “stretch that rope” with reference to Gov. Polis. (Colorado Newsline, Dec. 3, 2021)

Adkins seeks to defuse tensions and address issues by tapping into local viewpoints through her 23-member advisory council, composed of citizens of both political parties and election workers. The group, which meets every six to eight weeks, is meeting today to discuss the information presented at the Clements-Oltmann event.

“My job is to listen, to seek to understand, to communicate and not be emotional but be logical by explaining how we do elections in Nassau County.”

One of Adkins’ council members, Deb Boelkes, organized the Clements-Oltmann event for We the People, a conservative, non-party affiliated organization she founded eight years ago.

Boelkes is not a member of CDF-Nassau and said Jack Knocke, CDF-Nassau executive director, asked if his organization could have a table at the event. Knocke attended but declined to comment for this article.

Boelkes said she has investigated election fraud since 2020. “I don’t think it’s a Democrat or Republican issue. I think every American should be concerned about it. We all deserve to have our vote fairly counted.”

And Boelkes thinks Adkins and her staff are “doing a great job.” But she said she worked for IBM for several years and “knows how easy it is to program computers to do things people don’t know about.”

“I don’t think we’re a target here, but we have to be awake to the possibility that we could be,” she said.

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Kent Piatt
Kent Piatt (@guest_68593)
11 months ago

Why is a church providing a venue for advocates of violence?

Sheila
Sheila(@srcocchi)
11 months ago
Reply to  Kent Piatt

Why, indeed?

Steve Vogel
Steve Vogel(@stevedec)
11 months ago
Reply to  Kent Piatt

That particular denomination is noted for being Conservative.

Peg
Peg (@guest_68635)
11 months ago
Reply to  Kent Piatt

Has the First Baptist Church decided to set the teachings of Christ aside and follow grotesque vulgar idols like these two men? What a tragic course they’ve chosen.

Ashley
Ashley (@guest_68636)
11 months ago
Reply to  Kent Piatt

Violence? Wanting truth in voting should be important to ALL Americans and it is irresponsible to not make that a priority. I wouldn’t blame anyone for questions the validity of votes particularly when ballots are mailed in without proof of ID

JaxCraken
JaxCraken (@guest_68653)
11 months ago
Reply to  Kent Piatt

I wonder how many of the commenters below who lament the fact a community meeting was held in church actually attend church services anywhere on a regular basis? If you don’t, you might consider keeping your comments on what a church should or should not do to yourselves.

Suzanne
Suzanne (@guest_68852)
11 months ago
Reply to  Kent Piatt

GREAT question! I hope that someone poses that question to them and answers are provided.

Peggy Bulger
Peggy Bulger(@peggy-bulger1949gmail-com)
11 months ago

This is so sad. . . outside agitators come to Nassau County to sew fear and division for political power. Shame!! I would trust Janet Adkins with the investigation of any so-called “election fraud” — I am a registered Democrat and Janet is a Republican, but I believe she believes in democracy and fairness as our Supervisor of Elections. “We The People” and CDF are two openly right-wing organizations with a political agenda. Don’t drink the kool-ade!!

Ken Blackwelder
Ken Blackwelder (@guest_68600)
11 months ago
Reply to  Peggy Bulger

Peggy, Your 100% right on this. My question why would the first Baptist Church allow this type of speaker to have the time for his political speech. I thought the FBC was for preaching the Bible.

Ashley
Ashley (@guest_68637)
11 months ago

Most religions are conservative leaning however wanting accurate votes is a bi-partisan issue, I am not entirely sure I trust computer programs and computer algorithms to accurately count votes

Roy Chisolm
Roy Chisolm(@hwalker00)
11 months ago

First Baptist Church has the largest auditorium on the island. Many non-church related events are held there for that reason.

Joe Blanchard
Joe Blanchard(@jlblan2)
11 months ago
Reply to  Peggy Bulger

I do not understand why people keep refering the our form of government as a democracy. It is not and never has been. It is a representative republic. They are quite different. The Constitution is very clear on this point as are the debates before all the original states that ratified the Constitution.

Peggy Bulger
Peggy Bulger(@peggy-bulger1949gmail-com)
11 months ago
Reply to  Joe Blanchard

Oh please!

Yvonne Diamico
Yvonne Diamico (@guest_68631)
11 months ago
Reply to  Joe Blanchard

People do not know what type of government they have. Say the Pledge of Allegiance and it will tell you the form of government that we are supposed to be.

Theresa T Hartz
Theresa T Hartz (@guest_68622)
11 months ago
Reply to  Peggy Bulger

Totally agree, Peggy. This has all been debunked. The violent nature of these talks should frighten even the most conservative. This is not Christ-like.

Ashley
Ashley (@guest_68700)
11 months ago

violent nature? Having a differing of opinion is not violent. Not believing Covid came from a bat in a fruit market is not violent. If you believe everything at face value or what the media tells you, you are going to be in a world of confusion and deceit,

Captain Bill
Captain Bill (@guest_68717)
11 months ago
Reply to  Peggy Bulger

Peggy Bulger if anyone is drinking the koolade, it’s you. You never offer any solutions to anything including port operations which you obviously have no understanding about. All you can do is criticize. Your liberal intellectual deficiency is always obvious.

Richard Ireland
Richard Ireland (@guest_68605)
11 months ago

With all of the irregularities of the 2020 election and the ongoing efforts to weaken election integrity via the courts, it’s no wonder people feel the way they do. If you think everything was just “legit” and all rosy in 2020 – Read this peice from the folks that admit otherwise. – https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

Cameron M Moss
Cameron M Moss(@cmoss56)
11 months ago

Thank you for posting thelink Richard – the article speaks about behind the scenes efforts to avoid a calamitous election environment – not about driving for a particular outome. Those were effortst targeted to neutralize Trump’s efforts to underimine the integrity of the election in the event he didn’t win. This does not appear to weaken election integrity – quite the opposite….then maybe I misunderstood?

Richard Ireland
Richard Ireland (@guest_68642)
11 months ago
Reply to  Cameron M Moss

All of the efforts that were laid bare in this article were all efforts to weaken the integrity of the election process and done well before the voting started – widespread cheat by mail for instance. Do a little research and you will find reports election integrity reports that preceded Trump as a politician – revealed the facts and warned that widespread vote by mail opens up huge potential for fraud and Ballet box stuffing. Then add 400 million dollars from left wing corporate interests Aka – – Zuckerbucks, to target this effort in areas that only favored the left. Throw in a little collusion between the press and the permanent administrative state to withhold the truth about the damning facts of corruption contained within the Biden laptop. No, I do not believe that the 2020 election was “The most honest election in US history”.

Dennis Jay
Dennis Jay(@dennisjay)
11 months ago

The fact that these nutjobs got an audience is a sad reflection on our community.

Joe Blanchard
Joe Blanchard(@jlblan2)
11 months ago
Reply to  Dennis Jay

Everyone has a right to be heard. Whether you agree with a group or not, it is impossible to understand people without listening to all view points and then draw your own conclusions. One of our founders stated that he may not agree but he defended the right to be heard.

Kent Piatt
Kent Piatt (@guest_68614)
11 months ago
Reply to  Joe Blanchard

True enough, Joe. I drew my “own conclusions” after “it’s kill or be killed time.”

PattyM
Active Member
PattyM(@pattym)
11 months ago
Reply to  Dennis Jay

You’re right, Dennis Jay, it is a sad reflection on our community, and Joe Blanchard, no one was protesting their right to gather or speak. Yet, CDF is currently protesting loudly everywhere and anywhere wanting to restrict the rights of another group of people to gather in Fernandina — a group which does not preach lies, misinformation, or incite others to violence.

Last edited 11 months ago by PattyM
Ashley
Ashley (@guest_68638)
11 months ago
Reply to  Dennis Jay

You know…a lot of people called the people who claimed that Covid was released from a lab “nut jobs” It’s hard in this day and age not to question everything

Troy Walker
Troy Walker (@guest_68607)
11 months ago

50 Intelligence people wrote a fake letter discrediting the coke heads lap top story as Russian interference, Biden was behind the letter. This allegedly changed the out come to favor Biden. One reason these conversations Happen.

Dave Scott
Dave Scott (@guest_68616)
11 months ago
Reply to  Troy Walker

How about 787,500,000 reasons resulting from lies told by Fox News?

Jerry Torchia
Jerry Torchia(@agtorchia)
11 months ago

A bit of advice to Janet Atkinson: if you want to help restore trust in our elections, just do your job. And stay away from crackpot election deniers.

Richard Cain
Richard Cain(@richardcain)
11 months ago
Reply to  Jerry Torchia

Her name is Adkins … not Atkinson. Do your homework. Pay attention. And I think she’s done a great job. And she’s right to pay attention to all views having to do with elections and know what is being said, etc. That IS part of her job. Not sure who you are to be dispensing unsolicited advice.

Charles Loouk
Trusted Member
Charles Loouk(@charles-loouk)
11 months ago

This paper has gotten partisan since the change in ownership. There is also less coverage of local events. When I first moved here a few years ago, this was my go-to source for finding out about goings on in Fernandina – big local news, events going on, etc. The friends I have here are a result of going to these events. I’m disappointed that type of coverage seems to be gone – things like local car shows to benefit a charity – like the Yulee Cars and Coffee this past weekend to raise funds for a long-time local that passed way to young. The car show was in Yulee, but the departed had a home on the island. (I don’t know exactly which article would be the best spot to put this.)

Ashley
Ashley (@guest_68639)
11 months ago
Reply to  Charles Loouk

People are done with the partisan junk the media (this rag included) is pushing on everyone. No wonder our city commission now has 4 sitting conservatives. People had enough pushing

PattyM
Active Member
PattyM(@pattym)
11 months ago
Reply to  Ashley

No wonder our city commission now has 4 sitting conservatives” And we can all see how wonderful that is working out so far. Only one appears to operate on logical reasoning to do the right thing. The other three appear to have a pre-arranged agenda which was rushed through with no forethought or critical thinking. “partisan junk the media is pushing” I recall lots of “partisan junk” from two of our “sitting conservatives” violating the city charter when they ran for a non-partisan office.

Ashley
Ashley (@guest_68701)
11 months ago
Reply to  PattyM

Please. We all saw the democrat club of Nassau county openly supporting and providing signage for the losing candidates. So only a “little partisanship” is ok or whatever amount the democrats choose to do? Also cleaning house of a city manager who bloats the budget is hardly a bad thing. We need lower taxes and there’s absolutely zero reasons why I should be paying so much more than those that live in the county

Thomas Lee
Thomas Lee (@guest_68613)
11 months ago

What is going on at FBC? I checked the website and found NO mention of the meeting. The article alludes to a spat of cursing at the meeting. Is this what new parishioners are to expect when they attempt to follow Christ? What about the separation of church and state?

Richard Ireland
Richard Ireland (@guest_68666)
11 months ago
Reply to  Thomas Lee

Where was the state? Was this a state mandated meeting? I wasn’t there so am I in trouble. – You may want to take a few minutes and watch some Constitution 101 videos over at Hillsdale college website.

Robert Warner
Robert Warner(@rswarner)
11 months ago

Wacknuts poisoning our drinking water – the very concept of mutual trust. Why?

Mark Brummer
Mark Brummer (@guest_68648)
11 months ago

I do not trust any of the Biden administration as I believe Trump won the election. Stand up America the Globalist and now most of the current democratic establishment wants America a socialist country. Do your homework and research what is happening now.

Janet Lynch
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Janet Lynch(@janet-lynch)
11 months ago

Clements lost his job, law license and is going through his 5th investigation. Oltmann lost his company and is being sued by Dominion for defamation. Both espouse hateful, violent rhetoric and are desperately trying to raise money. Neither have any credibility.