‘A form of welfare’: Bill eliminating permanent alimony advances to House floor after heated debate

By Kelly Hayes
FloridaPolitics.com
February 10, 2022

‘Permanent alimony is a form of welfare. I’ve said it over and over again.’

Legislation to end lifelong alimony has returned to the Legislature and is now on to the floor after clearing its final House committee Tuesday evening.

This year’s House version (HB 1395), carried by Fort Myers Republican Rep. Jenna Persons-Mulicka, was approved in a 15-6 vote in the House Judiciary Committee, but only after some heated debate.

The legislation would prohibit the award of permanent alimony in future divorces and would also repeal court-ordered permanent alimony. That leaves bridge-the-gap, rehabilitative and durational alimony as options. Former couples could still agree to permanent alimony in a marital settlement.

Currently, long-term alimony can be modified at a judge’s discretion. A 1992 Florida Supreme Court ruling found that retirement counts as a change in circumstances that can modify alimony.

One provision in the bill that drew opposition from lawmakers across the aisle is the presumption that equal time sharing is in the best interest of children.

“My biggest issue with this bill is the 50/50, being a child of divorce,” said DeLand Republican Rep. Elizabeth Anne Fetterhoff. “The parents, they got married, they signed a contract. I get that, but the kids — at no fault of their own — did not sign into this contract and should not be put under the strain of being in a 50/50 situation. I just don’t feel like it’s a necessary part of this bill.”

Rep. Ben Diamond also expressed concern about the 50/50 presumption.

“I’m with where Rep. Fetterhoff is,” he said. “The most sensitive issue in a divorce is thinking about how parents who no longer live together raise their children.”

As for the alimony portion of the legislation, lawmakers were divided on where they stood.

“Permanent alimony is a form of welfare. I’ve said it over and over again. I’m not trying to be ugly. Welfare is financial support given to people in need, period. That’s what welfare is. That’s what alimony is,” said Escambia County Republican Rep. Michelle Salzman.

Salzman’s comment drew criticism from Tampa Democratic Rep. Dianne Hart, who argued cutting permanent alimony would leave individuals caring for children in compromising positions. Opponents say the legislation only seeks to benefit the primary breadwinner, putting the other individual at an unfair disadvantage.

“Call it welfare?” Hart said. “I call it taking care of your family — of that woman that you kept having children with, that stayed home and took care of them, and never had an opportunity to further her education.”

As in years past, the bill drew opposition from several current alimony recipients who feared the changes could alter their modifiable alimony, as well as attorney groups.

“In regard to alimony, the Section does not feel that it is reasonable or necessary to automatically reduce or terminate existing awards of alimony that were a result of a negotiated agreement or determination of the court, as this will do irreparable damage to alimony recipients by changing the rules after the entry of the Final Judgment,” said Heather Apicella, chair of The Family Law Section of The Florida Bar. “We continue to work with the sponsors of the legislation on ways to improve Florida’s current system of alimony.”

Apicella also expressed concern over the 50/50 time sharing presumption.

“It is paramount for the well-being of every child who is the subject of a timesharing dispute, that their case be considered based on their unique set of circumstances,” she said. “The fact is, the ability of a parent to provide for a child can differ greatly and should be considered in the determination of timesharing agreements.”

Some lawmakers have made repeated unsuccessful attempts to pass similar alimony reform measures in recent years. This Session, Sarasota Republican Joe Gruters is sponsoring the Senate bill (SB 1796).

The House voted 74-38 last year to pass the bill, which failed in Senate committees. The legislation would take effect in July, if approved.

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Marc Johnson
Marc Johnson (@guest_63870)
2 years ago

The proposed alimony reform measures are well past-due in today’s society. The concept of permanent alimony is archaic and creates dependency and gamesmanship of the system. Alimony payors should be allowed to retire and enjoy their golden years without supporting another adult until death. Equitable distribution equally divides marital assets acquired during the course of the marriage, and alimony should only be ordered for a reasonable amount and for a reasonable time. The only ones who like the current system are the family lawyers who profit from prolonged divorce litigation. It is time for our legislature to finally bring Florida into the 21st century!

Mark Tomes
Mark Tomes(@mtomes)
2 years ago

Wow, so which legislator has friends in a permanent alimony situation who want to get out of it? Or want a 50/50 child raising settlement? If these were Democrats sponsoring this bill, Republicans would be outraged at the government overreach. How can Republicans justify this as not intrusive?

Jo-Ann Leimberg
Jo-Ann Leimberg(@jo-ann-leimberg)
2 years ago

Why repeal past court ordered alimony decisions? I can, to a large degree, understand eliminating permanent alimony going forward, but why retroactive? It came before a judge, I assume facts were presented, it was decided. Where is the “right” in pulling out the rug from under someone’s feet that has been judicially decided? Let past decisions stand.
Lets do a good job at educating our young women and allow/encourage them to compete in the job market. Let’s not penalize those who have stayed at home, by mutual decision, to care for children.

Terrance Power
Terrance Power (@guest_63907)
2 years ago

Marriage Settlement Agreements and Court Orders are by their very nature completely modifiable…unless the MSA is expressly non-modifiable. Times change. So do laws every day. This is no different.

This has nothing to do with “caring for children”. Child support handles that. Someone can be paying permanent alimony to a healthy adult (a growing number of who are ex-husbands, by the way) and still recieve child support since they have full custody.

18 percent of all permanent alimony payers are women, btw. That’s up from just 4% in 2010. As women continue to secure advanced college degrees at a rate much greater then men, that percentage is expected to double by 2030..

Kym Murphy
Kym Murphy (@guest_63893)
2 years ago

Permanent alimony should be eliminated. California provides prolonged alimony payments in many divorces in which there was a long term marriage. I discuss it in-depth in my spousal support course.

Terrance Power
Terrance Power (@guest_63908)
2 years ago
Reply to  Kym Murphy

In Texas, the maximum duration for alimony for a marriage of 10-20 years is 7 years. In Florida, it’s a life sentence in most cases.