Fernandina Beach City Commission meeting – Bits and pieces

Submitted by Eric Bartelt
June 18, 2015 9:02 p.m.

Other noteworthy items on the June 16th City Commission meeting agenda included discussion about hiring an executive search firm to find a replacement candidate for the City Manager’s position, now that Joe Gerrity has resigned, and a proposed ballot initiative that would change the City Charter to allow four year terms for Commissioners instead of the current three year terms. There were also a couple of items of interest mentioned during the City Manager and Commissioner Reports at the end of the meeting.

John Miller 2
Johnny Miller, file photo.

But first, at the beginning of the meeting, during the Budget Summary, Commissioner Miller mentioned he had received a phone call from Attorney Buddy Jacobs, who serves as the City’s lobbyist, informing him that he, Mr. Jacobs, had spoken to someone about a program that may allow the City to acquire, through donation, the Post Office on Centre St. Miller asked the City Manager if the money that had previously been budgeted for sealing the building to prevent further decay was still in the budget. The City Manager replied there was $150,000 for the Post Office in next year’s budget. This was no doubt good news for those who have long advocated saving and restoring the Centre St. Post Office.


Hiring a New City Manager

At the previous City Commission meeting, the issue of the process for hiring a new City Manager was discussed. At Tuesday’s meeting the topic was again addressed, in the form of a Resolution authorizing the spending of up to $24,000 to hire Colin Baenziger & Associates to handle the search process for the City Manager position. The Baenziger firm had been mentioned by Commissioner Lentz at the previous Commission meeting, but since then questions were raised as to whether other, possibly less expensive firms should be given the opportunity to bid. Commissioner Gass said she had a proposal for $14,540, a significant savings over the Baenziger proposal. Commissioner Lentz then noted the Baenziger proposal was all-inclusive, whereas the proposal provided to Commissioner Gass was not, and that therefore the cost difference would likely be less. City Attorney Bach reminded the Commissioners that the City is required to issue a Request For Proposal (RFP) for any expense over $20,000, but that there is an exemption allowed for professional services. To use that exemption, however, she said there has to be a vote by the Commissioners of 4-1 in favor.

Commissioner Miller then proposed a different process, one that does not use a professional search firm. He referred to a situation in Coral Gables, FL where a candidate, located by a search firm the city had retained, had issues that showed up when the city did a background check. According to Miller, it became a legal issue with the city wanting their money back. A local resident, a former “headhunter”, then stepped forward and offered to assist the city with the hiring process. The city formed a committee and went through the hiring process with no cost to the city. Commissioner Miller proposed a similar process for Fernandina, seeing if there was someone local with experience to searching for candidates. He posed the question, “Aren’t we smart enough to hire someone on our own?”

Commissioner Lentz responded by pointing to the potential problem of someone local being too close to the situation. She emphasized that “we need a third party professional” and that Commissioner Miller’s suggestion was “absolutely the wrong thing to do.” Commissioner Poynter agreed with Lentz, saying we need someone from outside with no “axes to grind.” He did agree with Miller that the City could do its own background checks. Mayor Boner agreed with Lentz and Poynter, saying “people tend to take sides here” so we need to find a neutral party.

Commissioner Lentz made a motion to approve hiring Baenziger & Associates, with Commissioner Poynter seconding the motion. The vote was 3-2 with Miller and Gass voting against. Since the vote did not reach 4-1, it did not pass. Commissioner Gass then asked City Attorney Bach to gather proposals from other search firms and present them at the next meeting. Commissioner Poynter objected because it would mean another two weeks before a decision could be made. Commissioner Gass then proposed a special meeting, and Commissioner Poynter and the others agreed. The meeting will be held on Thursday, June 25th at 9:30 am.


Charter Amendment

At the last City Commission meeting, the Commissioners asked City Attorney Tammi Bach to prepare an Amendment to the City Charter that would:

1. Increase the terms of City Commissioners from three years to four years.
2. Hold elections every two years instead of every year.
3. Eliminate term limits for Commissioners.
4. Have the Mayor serve two year terms.
5. Establish a super-majority vote of Commissioners to terminate Charter Officers (City Manager, City Attorney, and City Clerk)

Since the Amendment would change the City Charter, it must appear on the ballot and be voted on by the electorate.

Commission Miller moved to approve the Amendment but it died for lack of a second. Commissioner Poynter then moved to approve the Amendment, but without the provision eliminating term limits. Commissioner Miller seconded the motion and the Mayor opened the floor to public comment. Andrew Curtin, citing his 30 years in Fernandina and his previous run for City Commission, spoke in favor of the Amendment (click here to see Mr. Curtin’s comments).

Discussion centered on whether term limits should be retained. Commissioner Poynter was in favor of retaining term limits because after 8 years “it’s time for fresh ideas.” Commissioner Lentz agreed and added that she wanted to be sure the change would not affect any of the current Commissioners, that none of their terms would be lengthened by the change. Commissioner Gass felt term limits should be eliminated, saying she thought “the people should decide,” not term limits. City Attorney Bach pointed out that the provisions of the Amendment would be listed as line items so voters could vote for or against specific provisions, such as term limits.

Roy Smith 3Next to speak was Roy G. Smith, who agreed with retaining term limits but thought the super majority to terminate Charter Officers provision was not necessary. He reasoned that whether a vote was 4-1 or 3-2 made little difference. City Manager Gerrity, citing his past experience, offered that “4-1 isn’t democracy. 3-2 is democracy.”

Julie Ferreira 1Julie Ferriera spoke to the need to retain runoff elections, citing the previous attempt in the County to split the election, where there was no runoff election. She also questioned why the Commission was proposing this change since the same thing was put on the ballot three or four times in the past six or seven years, and the people keep voting it down. Commissioners responded by pointing out the margin of failure was narrowing each time, and that it failed by only “14 to 17” votes last time.

In preparation for voting on the Amendment, Attorney Bach read the provisions of the amendment, just as they would appear on the ballot, to the Commissioners. They are:

1. Increase Commissioner terms from three years to four years
2. Have elections every two years, in even numbered years, to coincide with County and State elections.
3. The Mayor’s term would be for two years, elected by the Commissioners through a straw ballot.

The Commissioners finally all agreed that term limits and the super-majority provisions would not be included and that runoff elections would continue. The vote was 5-0 in favor.

City Manager’s Report

At the end of the meeting, during the City Manager’s Report, Mr. Gerrity said he had heard from the railroad regarding the proposed parking along the railroad tracks in Parking Lot B. He said the railroad wants 18′ to 25′ between the parking and the center of the closest tracks. The current plan calls for the parking to be 11 ½’ to the center of the tracks, so Mr. Gerrity has requested a new plan be drawn up for presentation at next Thursday’s special meeting.

Gerrity also brought up the issue of the location for the water slide at Main Beach, noting that the proposed location would not work. He said he wanted to talk with the Commissioners about that.

Next on his list was Beach Access 33, an unimproved access that exists next to a new house being built on S. Fletcher. Because the access is unimproved, meaning it has no walkover or other means for walking to the beach other than through the dunes, he decided to allow the owner of the house to donate palm trees and grass to beautify the access right of way. He said that landscaping would not prohibit anyone from using the access but that because there is no pathway or walkover, there was effectively no way for the public to actually get to the beach. He said the only way to get to the beach was to walk through the dune vegetation, which the Florida Dept. of Environmental Protection frowns upon. If in the future the City decides to build a walkover at that access, Gerrity said the City can still do that.

He next addressed the topic of food trucks. Someone had inquired as to whether foods trucks were allowed. Mr. Gerrity said they were not allowed in the city. Commissioner Poynter noted that there was little interest in food trucks because there were only a few places where they could locate. There was discussion also about the conflict between food trucks and bricks and mortar restaurants, which have higher costs. Commissioner Poynter pointed out that if a food truck owner teamed up with a bricks and mortar restaurant, the food truck would be permitted, but not on City property. The Commissioners agreed to consider food trucks and Attorney Bach said she would bring the ordinance covering them back the Commission for further discussion.


Commissioner Reports

Ed Boner 6 at power pointMayor Boner brought up the idea of purchasing a property on the waterfront, along N. Front St. that would be a key addition if the City decided to move the Marina to the north, to solve the siltation problem that exists with the current Marina location. Purchasing the property would give the City the water rights that come with the property, which would be necessary for moving the Marina to that location. The Mayor explained that the time to buy the property is now, as it is bank owned and will only increase in value when the Alachua St. crossing is opened. He asked if the other Commissioners had any interest in having the City Manager look into this, and they all said yes.

With that, the Mayor gaveled the meeting to a close.

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Marlene Chapman
Marlene Chapman(@crew2120)
8 years ago

Having gone and seen for ourselves what had been allowed to happen at beach access #33 , we are so saddened and can’t imagine that Mr Gerrity think this is ok! The homeowner has planted palm trees, sodded and installed a sprinkler system on city property! The palm trees are planted in a way that would make it very difficult for anyone to use the access by foot or driving. Mr Gerrity says that this landscaping would not inhibit anyone from using the access….well, from what we saw, no one would even know that there was access there as this 33 feet looks as though it belongs to the homeowner! When did it become ok for us to just “give” use of public property to a private homeowner? This is wrong on any terms. Even though there is walkway over the dunes, this is still public property and the homeowner planted and did this landscaping prior to getting his permit! While walking over the dunes is frowned upon, it is not against the law. This is not to say that we would cross the dunes, but who has the right to refuse this? Why are the laws different for different people? Mr Gerrity should be ashamed of what he had done and caused at #33 . According to what I have heard and read, the homeowner stated that he has no problem of “his” sod is trampled or if “his” sprinklers are broken…. that is ludicrous! Mr Gerrity, before you leave….fix the messes that you have made!

Chris French
Chris French (@guest_38320)
8 years ago

I used that access for years before the boardwalk was cut off from public use a few years ago. The way this debacle has gone about is very discouraging. It was not until people asked questions about the palm trees that an application permit surfaced. I’m pretty sure if there were not astute citizens who noticed what had happened, this would have been quietly pushed on through. I believe the city manager doesn’t quite grasp how passionate we are about our public beach access. Thankfully, years ago we had people in charge who saw the value in them, and had the foresight to establish the property for our future use. I’m not only fiercely proud of my home, I’m equally as protective. One of the highlights, at least to me, is the amount of beach access spots we have. They are truly one of our strongest assets. As beautiful as the island is in general, the majority of people come here for our gorgeous beaches. Why not do whatever possible to make reaching them even more accessible. What has been allowed by the city manager looks like a discouragement to me. In the last few years I’ve noticed our accesses are overflowing more and more. I would think our city leaders would be more proactive when it comes to something like this. I understand that walking all over the dunes is not what we should do. But as of now there’s over 20 beach accesses that only have a foot path to reach the ocean. Not to mention all the homes that only have a path. There is 33ft+/- to construct another parking area for us to use. I know it would be expensive, but look how much we’ve thrown away on legal fees the past few years.

Steve Crounse
Steve Crounse (@guest_38313)
8 years ago

I agree with Marlene. This is wrong, it sets a very bad precedent, What do you say to the next guy? No you can’t, he lawyers up, You did this for access 33 you must do for me. The court rules in plaintiffs favor. To deny the public’s use of the full right of way. Can’t and should not stand. It’s just a little more erosion of public rights and lands. Has the access sign been reinstalled? Last time I drove by, it hadn’t. I would suggest as many Towns folks utilize #33 as possible. Even if you have to walk a little ways to #32 or #34

Marlene Chapman
Marlene Chapman(@crew2120)
8 years ago
Reply to  Steve Crounse

Steve, The access sign has been reinstalled, but please drive by and see what the true picture is. These palms and sod are placed as to make everyone believe that all of this access area, owned by the city, is this homeowner’s property! The word access means just that…..access to the beach for ALL!! I agree with you, Mr Gerrity has set a precedent that he must correct. This is an issue that never should have been had the CM truly taken in consideration how passionate we are about this island and our spaces.

Vic Garvin
Vic Garvin (@guest_38329)
8 years ago

While I agree that it may not have been the best idea for that beach access to be planted, I would say that people should use it as a pocket park. It could be a good place to walk a dog, throw a frisbee or football and maybe a bench or two could be put there in a manner so as to not impede foot traffic. We should use it as it is now that it has been beautified. Instead of all the negativity, use this area and contact your city commissioners and city manager about constructing a walkover as it is certainly needed in that area. At least it wasn’t sold to the homeowner.

Lea Scott
Lea Scott (@guest_38372)
8 years ago

It sounds like we the people of fernandina Beach would like the opportunity to use the public beach access. Why not have a fundraising barbecue on our newly landscaped property in an effort to raise the funds necessary to build a walkover?

kinney leonard
kinney leonard (@guest_38380)
8 years ago

I agree with Vic. Now that it is there we should install benches and finish what he started. We should put a walkover in and really USE this access point. Bring your dogs , frisbees and friends ti access 33!! Its the prettiest one!! Lets ALL show mr gerrity and tbis ho,eowner how much we LOVE our beach accesses!!!

kinney leonard
kinney leonard (@guest_38381)
8 years ago
Reply to  kinney leonard

Im sorry, im typing on my phone because Taylor is sleeping and i have sausage fingers….true story! Go beach access #33 !!!!

Christine Corso
Christine Corso (@guest_38413)
8 years ago

It is interesting the City Manager “decided to allow the owner of the house to donate palm trees and grass to beautify the access right of way”. My question is why a request to build a public walk-over was not currently made? Based on the aerial photos in the News-Leader, it appears the owner will still need to build a walk-over for his own use.

Another in a long line of annoying and inappropriate decisions by our City Manager.

Steve Crounse
Steve Crounse (@guest_38420)
8 years ago

Lea, Kinney, What a super idea. Seriously, a pocket park and a walk over. The landscaping is complete. # 33 would be the best access on the Beach. What can I do to help? Marlene and Chris are you in? What a way to turn Chicken S–T into Chicken Salad. I’m sure we’ll need a permit from the City Manager to do anything.

Medardo Monzon
Medardo Monzon(@mmonzon)
8 years ago

The so-called donation was a deliberate attempt to prevent parking.
Joe Gerrity’s argument is lame because many beach accesses don’t have walk overs.

A community drive would get the materials and labor to build a walkover.

Steve Crounse … I’m IN

Steve Crounse
Steve Crounse (@guest_38438)
8 years ago

Good for you Medardo, I’m looking forward to working with you on this. I just shot off Emails to a couple Commissioners to see if we can get any assistance from the City to accomplish this project. I drove by 33 tonight, they were laying sod, the palm trees look nice, but your right, the placement is interesting. There are many Palms going towards the Dunes are they also on the Access Right of Way? OK, who’s got the organisational skills to get us to gather over coffee to discuss this project? Anyone!

Steve Crounse
Steve Crounse (@guest_38461)
8 years ago
Reply to  Steve Crounse

Just rode by #33 , The sod is complete, the wildlife sign has been reinstalled, across the Right of Way, seems to be on the center line of it. There are Three more Palm Trees, across the Right of way closer to the dunes. everything planted, is to inhibit the use of the Access by the public. What chutzpah,why does it not surprise me, that a person who can afford a magnificent home on the Beach would think the normal rules do not apply to them. Joe,please don’t do this again.

Steve Crounse
Steve Crounse (@guest_38505)
8 years ago

Hay Folks, Commissioner Miller will attempt to get the Issue of Access #33 put on the next regular Commission Meeting. I feel that’s the proper procedure to discuss, resolve and plan for the access improvements we are talking about. Someone said that the owners of the Home have not installed a Walk- Over to the Beach, perhaps they would be amenable to working with the Volunteers and the City to share the expenses of a Walk-Over. Any way Y’all stay tuned.

Marlene Chapman
Marlene Chapman(@crew2120)
8 years ago

We, as a family are in for donating our time and building a walk over…..whatever it takes! This has been a ridiculous step by Mr Gerrity and someone needs to ask him why he did this….the way things stand now, as I see it….the homeowner planted these palms and THEN went for a permit…..the homeowner planted the trees in a way that would make it very difficult for anyone to drive there or even walk, they are not planted exactly as the “drawing” shows….the homeowner sodded and installed a sprinkler system of which the sprinklers go off at times when we’d use the access! I am not sure where this will go from here but the only one who has gained anything to this point, is the homeowner! He has made it look as though the entire access area is part of HIS property! Anyone who sees the access sign and then sees the sod, trees, etc…they would turn around and leave as it looks as though they’d be trespassing!!! I am not sure how you all feel, but I say we do whatever we can to get this resolved…..we cannot lose a access point….that is what we are known for! People come from all over and comment how lucky we are to have such amazing, cost free access to our beaches….why let it go just because the CM felt it was ok????
This affects all of us and anyone who visits our home island. Meeting here at our home or anywhere….just let me know! P.S. Kinney is my son in law and was “sprinkled” by the homeowners system when we went to see what was going on at the access!!!! Thanks everyone!

Marlene Chapman
Marlene Chapman(@crew2120)
8 years ago

One addition from our family…..could we please strive to make it a “roll over” so that anyone with difficulty could also access the beach there….including our daughter and Kinney, our son!!!! PLEASE??!!

Steve Crounse
Steve Crounse (@guest_38517)
8 years ago

Marlene, I’m really glad you’ll be involved, a Roll-Over is just the right thing to do for any new construction of this type. You and Kinney can be invaluable on the design of a Roll-Over. It’s going to take a month til the sod on the Right of Way “Takes hold” so we have time. If Commissioner Miller can get 33 on the next Commission meeting, perhaps we can use that to all meet and get the process started. What do you think?

Marlene Chapman
Marlene Chapman(@crew2120)
8 years ago

Steve, That all sounds great! Anything that we can do so show the CM and everyone who doesn’t seem to care or take this seriously, just how precious not just this access but all city land is to the future of this island. Anyone who reads this, can you please let me know if you’re truly interested in following through on this? As with the railroad crossing at Front and Centre and the Sidewalk from Front to the Pelican, I am extremely passionate about this as I hope you all are also! Thank you!

Marlene Chapman
Marlene Chapman(@crew2120)
8 years ago

Steve, We will be here, there and anywhere we need to so that we can get this done in the proper way. also, Anyone out there who is truly interested in staying with us on this access and getting this done the proper way….please let me know! We will do this on the up and up, no promises made behind anyone’s backs! Thank you

Chris French
Chris French (@guest_38525)
8 years ago

I’m in. If you read my comment above, you’ll see I feel strongly about this. One of the things I’ve heard the city manager say is there’s not enough property there for a proper access. Not buying it. Check out how tight beach access 35 is, probably less than 33 feet wide. Now because the homeowner has been given a variance, and the home is on the property line, any access will be right up against the house. They are gonna fight a legitimate access for that reason. However, it should not deter us from getting an access in place. It’s actually one of the deeper pieces of property we have on the ocean. We have plenty of space to work with.

Chris French
Chris French (@guest_38526)
8 years ago

Also, I work for FBFD. We have a Local 2836 union meeting coming up. I’m going to ask if we can do anything to help with this project. I’m sure my brothers will be willing to donate their time and efforts to this endeavor.

Marlene Chapman
Marlene Chapman(@crew2120)
8 years ago

Chris…all sounds great and any help you can get from FBFD would be amazing. We must make sure we do this right way as we can’t lose ths one! The fact that the homeowner’s property is just at the line is the fault of the CM! There are no words that he could say to make this even a little ok. He’s leaving, not soon enough, and now it seems as though he cares about nothing! 33′ is 33′ and no matter what, it belongs to us….I do know that so many people are willing to help, I just question how to get this going? Will we run up against a wall trying to build the “roll over” ourselves due to it being city property? I truly think that all interested need to sit down together, have a united front and stand our ground. We can’t allow more of this type of “approvals” by the CM!

Steve Crounse
Steve Crounse (@guest_38565)
8 years ago

I know an Independent Contractor who has worked on Beach properties here for 35 years, I’m going to ask him if he will cost it out for us, so we have a ballpark figure on what the cost will be on the Walk/Roll-Over. I’m sure that will be one of the first questions asked by the Commission. Anybody reading this have any figures on Cost?

Steve Crounse
Steve Crounse (@guest_38575)
8 years ago

You know the good news about perhaps the Post Office being donated to the City. The $150,000 budgeted next year for making it weather tight, the Interest on the Commissions part to investigate, the possibility of purchasing the River property North of the Marina was lost on all of us, Because of the access 33 Issue. That’s all positive Stuff. Thank you Commissioners.

Marlene Chapman
Marlene Chapman(@crew2120)
8 years ago

Well, getting the cost analysis would be very helpful but will we need to get the permit ourselves if approved or will the city do this? So many questions…..
Where would the walk/roll over begin?
How do those in wheelchairs, with walkers, with children in strollers get to the beach?
It seems as though we have not pushed the idea of meeting at access#33 for a day of use….meaning, using the access as it is meant to be used! Park our cars, walk down the access, bring chairs and make a day of it….where do you all stand on that?

Steve Crounse
Steve Crounse (@guest_38635)
8 years ago

Marlene, everybody, if we can get together after the Commissioners meeting to plan what needs to be done and by who, would be a good first step. Would that be Tues.July 7th? In the News Leader, Gerrity said he is going to try to get monies for a Walk-over @ 33 in the next budget. There are opportunities here for all to benefit from this project. Please don’t put a “stick in anyone’s eye” Let’s be cool, everybody has something to bring to the party. With City Help and Donations from Volunteers and perhaps the Hays Family we can have a wonderful mini park and a professionally built Walk/Roll-Over with an Observation deck and Ramp to the Beach. Sound Good?

Margo Story
Margo Story (@guest_38732)
8 years ago

Get over it, how many of you have actually used this access? There are 40 other accesses….leave the family & their property alone so they can enjoy what they have built!!

Eric Hatton
Eric Hatton (@guest_38755)
8 years ago
Reply to  Margo Story

That might work if we also “got over” not allowing anyone else to move to the county or any new people to enjoy our beach. Unfortunately we have to plan for a future with additional demand and no new supply of beach access. The pie is only so big and everyone wants a slice from time to time. This is our property owned by the public (that’s you). Perhaps you are very generous and wouldn’t mind letting someone take your property but most people do.